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- From: jlilley@ix.netcom.com (John Lilley)
- Newsgroups: comp.lang.c++,rec.games.programmer,alt.msdos.programmer,comp.programming
- Subject: Re: Young programmers read me.
- Date: 24 Mar 1996 05:10:47 GMT
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- In article <4ippuq$4pk@scoop.eco.twg.com>, mike@vishnu.eco.twg.com says...
- >
- >If you don't agree, check out any of the Corel newsgroups and see how thier
- >customers feel about the seemingly endless bugs...
-
- If I may inject a little sanity into this discussion, I'd like to
- make a few observations:
-
- It is almost always true that optimization of a program causes
- errors. Trying to hit the PC market in the recent past (and
- probably even today), means excessive optimization and this is
- a major source of errors in the PC marketplace.
-
- MS-Windows in particular is a nasty environment. The degree to
- which undocumented and illogical behaviors occur in this
- programming environment is truly amazing. And most of these
- came about from the need to optimize the H--- out of Windows
- from the day it was conceived and deal with the DOS/640k legacy.
-
- That being said, using the example of a buggy program under
- MS-Windows as a condemnation of "C" or C++ is a rather weak
- argument, unless it can be demonstrated that programs written
- in other languages (ADA) fare better. So, how many of the
- top 100 programs on MS-Windows are written in ADA? It is
- easy to compare actual and theoretical programs; but the limits
- of the marketplace, the performance of the intended
- hardware, and the existing tools and libraries, are an absolute
- part of the equation. Perhaps as performance continues to
- improve and tools evolve ADA will become more attractive
- and get a chance to prove itself. I won't hold my breath.
-
- john lilley
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